running the marathon and dehydrated, he came back. >> the people of boston and people coming out from welcome to "red eye." i'm greg gutfeld. there is no pre game report tonight. instead we will start with 5* gergalog on the events that unfolded on monday. for me it is a challenge to recall what was news before a terror attack. terror puts everything in perspective. it aligns priorities and tells you what matters. everything on the tront page slides away replaced by horrific images of vicious murder. and that's what it is. it is not tragedy, but murder. one truth gleamed from this terrorist act is one worth remembering. it is from a poster i saw on facebook. it reads "cool guys walk away from explosions. heros run toward them." truer words were never spoken. unlike some others floating around on the web, to me the

ability to resist an inclination for political rhetoric in times of tragedy is a fair measure of intelligence and grace which is why one grim masses when they see people in the media speculate wildly or blame groups they already share a beef. i could name the usual suspects, michael moore, but you know who they are. they are the talking heads paid by the word, and they cannot stop from stringing them together. it is in no real order, chris matthews. for them silence is like suffocation. last night the president said not to jump to conclusions. if only the media who adores him so much would listen. and now, let's welcome our guests. i am here with author, columnist and contributor jedediah bila who is also wearing red. how dare you? and a first time guest, joe pollack. third time is a charm. i think i just insulted you. author, political commentator and bright bart.com editor-in-chief.

my repulsive sidekick, bill schulz and the lousy waiver. sitting next to me is the fox newschannel anchor with the best hair, rick fulbaum. it is true. what do we know? experts believe pressure cookers were used to make the crude bombs that sprayed chrapnel in boston. doctors report that the explosive devices were packed with small pellets pellets pellets with shart nail-like objects designed to maim. the fbi was investigating the act as a quote, act of terrorism, end quote and added this. >> what we don't yet know is who carried out this attack or why, whether it was planned and executed by a terrorist organization, foreign or domestic, or was the act a benevolent individual? >> the special agent in charge of the fbi's boston field office discussed what they found. >> among items partially

recovered are pieces of black nylon which could be from a backpack and what appears to be fragments of bb's and nails possibly contained in a pressure cooker device. we are expediting the evidence to our laboratory in quan taco, virginia for analysis. >> no terrorist group has claimed responsibility and as one official told the new york times, such a claim would help investigators as they try and weed out suspects. hard to argue that, rick. it is hard -- it is not funny, but it is kind of scary when you are looking for a break in the case, and the break in the case is a person admitting they did it. isn't it kind of scary that's all you have? >> i think actually this happens a lot with stories. stories break and investigators are looking for help, and a lot of times they do go through the media to try to get to the public, and they said today somebody out there

knows who did this. somebody out there knows who is responsible for this and they are urging to call with any kind of information and however tiny this information may be share it with authorities. you don't know what it is. it might be exactly the thing that breaks the case. >> yes, the only problem is now everybody has tiny pieces of information. they all have iphones and cell phones. when you are at a large, public event it is almost like you are gathering a million cigarette butts to look for dna. it is like you don't know which one. everybody has all of these pictures and you might over look perhaps the needle in the hey stack. >> it is true, but law enforcement and the fbi has sophisticated software and they can take this information and they can digitize it and these computers can analyze it very quickly. it is not like we have a little guy looking with a scroll and go oh let me look at that. it is not like you are siting in the reference room at the library. you actually have machines that can do this now. i heard earlier today that

folks went to the logan airport as people were getting ready to fly out of boston and fly home to wherever it was that they live saying before you get on the airplane, do you have anything on your phone that we can download lowed right here? they had all of the -- download right here? they had it all loaded up. >> bill does that when there is no tragedy. i can see your phone, and then he takes it and he leaves. >> i don't have a phone. what i do is take it from other people. that's what he was trying to say. >> thank you for explaining that. >> i don't have a phone. >> jedediah, why would somebody perform an atrocity and not take credit for it. is there a strategy to that? >> i was sort of afraid that this was going to be one in a series of many events. anytime you have an event like this that happens, we brace ourselves for is there something else that could happen. there is amped up security around the country. i was wondering and hopefully i am wrong, but is this going to be a series of horrific events that happen and then somebody will step forth and claim responsibility for them

all? i don't know why anybody hasn't claimed responsibility, but it is hard as a viewer just to get any details on this issue. every press conference i watch i feel like i haven't heard anything new. i think that's smart in one respect because they are waiting to see if they released false information to the public, but as a viewer i am hungry for the information. i want to know who it is and i want to know that the authorities we depend are on top of it. >> my sense is and i talked to actually some democrats, or actually one democrat who is on another show i am on, a large democrat, and he said if they don't -- no, no, no. if there isn't some kind of information it could be over fast because you have to do it in the first 48 hours or so or it is gone. >> the pressure cooker is a dead give away. it is a kitchen appliance like a tea kettle. but the other thing is when they had the world trade

center bombing 20 years ago, the first one, they found a vehicle identification number in the wreckage. they traced it back to a rental car agency and they caught the guy when he showed up to claim the deposit back on the car that he had reported stolen. these little things, they will comb the area and will find clues. i think they will find these guys. >> you said that in the green room and i am wore reetd -- i am worried because generally it happens faster, doesn't it? >> it does feel drawn out. it feels like we have been waiting jie. it has only been one day. >> there is a fear of disseminating -- you know, misleading people. wait until you really know. and then released the information. don't released tidbits that are misleading. i kind of respect the fact that they are paying close attention to that. >> the olympic park bombing in 1996 took seven years for them to realize it was eric robert rudolph. at first you remember it was richard jewel, the guy who had come forward and pointed out

the bomb who was first haled a hero and then a couple of newspapers said he was under suspicion and thought he was trying to make himself a hero. >> most unfair -- i remember thinking he was guilty. >> everybody thought he was guilty. >> you always say oh here is a security guard that wants to be famous. everybody was wrong. poor guy. he passed away, i believe. >> yes, but it was seven years before they creaked that case. here we are less than48 hours. >> bill, you went to college nearby and that makes you an expert. >> yes. and you take this long to get to me. finish your question. >> that was it. >> indeed i did go to college in boston. all right, coming up -- i was thinking i left boston in 1999 and that was before 2011, if you do the math. even after 2011, in new york i felt police presence when i go outside. every block you walk around in

manhattan you feel it. i remember visiting friends in boston after 2011 -- -- -- >> you mean 2001? >> yes, 2001. this is vodka. and i didn't feel that. you could go to lots of areas in boston and you did not feel a police presence. i figured me not saying that would be good enough. i asked the brain room which as you remember is a bunch of brains and far mall formaldehyde. there are 242 officers per person in new york city and 290 in boston. but here is the difference. >> per person? >> have you it in reverse. >> yes, yes. that is it. there are -- we spend $4 billion on our police department, and they spend $278 million. i don't know if there is a difference in that, but that seems to be a big dirt right there -- d ri th right there.

>> dirth? >> this is the one thing that was interesting. duvall, is that it, duvall? i always get his name right. duvall patrick, he said it is important to turn to each other and not on each other. what does he mean by that? is he basically saying don't go beating up people in boston? is that what he is basically saying? >> you know, this has been a theme he has used over and over again when he first came out to try to explain what was going on. he asked is it safe to go back in the city? he said we can't tell you. we will rely on you all and we will rely on you guys to help us. his theme throughout has been we can't actually figure out what is going on. we will rely on the public. really the public has been the source of all heros coming forward. they helped people stop the bleeding and that is the amazing story here. how many people took it on themselves to help each other. i think he is trying to reemphasize that. >> you always wonder how you

will react in situations like that. you can see those people just go right into it. it is pretty incredible. i want to ask you this, rick, and i don't know if you know the answer. i hate speculation. our marathon was canceled because of hurricane sandy. could that have changed the plans at all that that's why they went to boston and not new york? is that just me spouting a question and you have no answer for? >> have i no answer. but since andy levy is not here to fact check us, let me make something up. i don't know the answer to that. it is pure speculation. >> just checking that's all. who knows? who knows? it could have been bill and then again he would have failed. in the minutes and hours after the attack twitter was a source of information and idiocy as usual. i couldn't tweet.

i was under my bed hiding. the new york times didn't miss a chance to link the bombings to the gop. explosions is a reminder that atf needs a director. shame on senator republicans for blocking appointment. and then the tv host who tweeted "your reaction as a country to the boston marathon will be different if it is a muslim with a bomb or a white shooter with a gun." and then follow it up with this gem, if shooter killed 17 people in boston marathon with assault rifle it wouldn't get near the reaction it would if a terrorist kills three with a bomb. former congresswoman, mckinney, following the lead saying the bomb bombing was a, false flag carried out by our own government. she said the pattern is becoming too, too familiar. boston cops were having a bomb squad drill on the same day as. finally there is boss hogg

himself michael moore who said two plus two equals and then tax day and patriots day. we get it you cor pew lent carbon footprint. as least you don't have to worry about being hurt at a marathon. jedediah, good for nick christoff. he said it was stupid and a low blow and takes it back. but what causes people to tweet something -- is it kind of like ideology overcoming common sense? >> they feel the need to point the finger at something and it is usually a member of the opposition party or somebody they extend to disagree -- they tend to disagree with. this is the moment they seize to do that. it reflects on what they are as people and what they value and their inability to come together at times like this and not paw lit size a tragedy. these are the same people that will call upon me and say you politicize. no you do it. we said let's just pray for

the families. jay it works -- >> it works both ways. you saw the finger-pointing from the left. there was just as predictable finger-pointing from the right. >> is there the same amount though this i don't know. >> i think there is a lot right here. wolf blitzer on cnn whose beard only rivals joels over here, wolf blitzer said we have to mention today is tax day and patriots day and who knows if that had anything to do with it. those on the right who consider themselves tea party patriots or whatever they want to call themselves took offense and thought immediately wolf blitzer was pointing the finger at them. i read the transcript and i saw the clip, and he did nothing of the sort. everybody goes a little crazy, and i think we react very emotionally in times like this. >> but joel, there are emotional responses when people say oh my god. that's an emotional response.

this is terrible. but the emotional responses say it is you. david frum did this to conservatives after sandy hook. a lot of people do it after those kinds of tragedies. what is it? why? can't you wait? >> just speaking earn personally, i refuse to speculate about which right wing group is responsible. i think it is because these are senseless things and evil is senseless and unpredictable and it is the pattern that people use to make sense of something they president cay otherwise explain. there is something nare saw cystic about tweeting. people tweet pictures of themselves. that's part of them and then people take them down and put up a bigger story. >> i am going to start doing that. i will tweet something that is inknock could you us with and then immediately take it down in order to create the idea that whatever i did was -- i want to bring bill into this. i never followed this whole false flag operation argument that it comes out of alex

jones and cynthia mckinney. what is it about the brain that immediately decides it is a conspiracy or specific types of brains? >> they refer to themselves as flag hags, greg. that's part of their group. i don't like the fact that we are giving away their paraphenalla by talking about it. i don't get it. it is people that have nothing else to bring to the table. they can't just be our thoughts and prayers are with a, b or c. or they can't say this is a terrible day. they have to follow it up with something they use to fill a lack of personality. the fact that they can't have friends any other way, they sign this group where there are all of these like minded people that agree with the same crazy things they do. and so they are embraced that way rather than being a person. >> i think twitter has showcased for me that for some life exists to make a political point. today i heard president obama speaking. i am not a big fan of a lot of his policies, but i tweeted something brief saying solid statement from the president. i felt he did a great job, and i got a ton of tweets coming

at me that were so hyper political about benghazi or something related. >> i think we need to just all of us left, right and center just take a minute and just not be so hyper political about things that just -- let's give a minute to these people. >> you would say that you obama loving socialist. >> there is a guy i toll on twitter called roll digity. twitter is the best thing ever for the first five minutes. it is amazing. for the next 24 hours it is the worst thing ever. then after you get the news and then nobody knows what to do after they get all of the initial -- they turn on each other and then it is a pillow fight with vicious words, vicious words. >> what are you doing with your hands? >> that's not how you pillow fight. >> shut up, we are going to take a break i think.

i did have another question, but who cares? we have more stories to cover. i hear something in my ear. don't go anywhere. we will be right back.

so the bombing in boston marked the end of a decade of remarkably few terrorist strikes in the united states. it is thanks to aggressive law enforcement strategies following september 11th. in fact, according to the global terrorism database, my favorite database, the post 9 lsh slen decade saw fewer attacks than in 2001. and as former mayor rudy guiliani noted on tuesday that is surprising. >> really the big news here is this is a horrible you a tack and a terrible attack. my heart goes out to those hurt and it is surprising there haven't been more of

these since september 11th. we expected many attacks like this. the really remarkable story is so many have been prevented. >> that's true. i ran into the mayor getting a cup of coffee. he said absolutely which means no. >> by having that cliff could we say he is on the show? rudy guiliani is a "red eye" guest. i said we don't tape at 3:00 a.m. he says it seems like it does. i said that's because we are drunk. >> these numbers, do they surprise you? >> and does it matter? it matters that it is getting lower, but there is no way but to feel bizarre and awful after each one. >> right. i was thinking about the numbers and it is like a matter of semantics. really are you talking about terror attacks. okay, so what about the shooting at newtown and what about the movie theater?

why aren't those terror attacks? those guys are terrorists and they set out to do the same thing that who ever is responsible for boston set out to do. it is to kill or injure as many people as possible. i think we can't be lulled into some kind of false sense of security because some data bureau says the numbers are actually shrinking. i think there are a lot of people out there who want to do a lot of harm and we have to remain vigilant. >> if you are talking about the mass shootings, there is not a political or religious ideology fueling a desire for destruction. but they both are similar in the sense of helplessness they engender when they occur, the idea that this could happen anywhere at anytime. joel, what do you think? do you think this kind of stuff affects people in the long run? will it affect like attendance at sporting events? >> it could. my brother was on a flight after 9/11 and he was the only person on the entire plane. that was obviously an extreme example. >> it was a by plane though.

you didn't tell them he was a stunt pilot, but go ahead. >> i think we do see fewer terror attacks. more terrorists are now attending an ivy league university. i went to the mall last night thinking what will happen here? do people have that thought for a longtime? i think so. unfortunately it is one of the things we get used to. we talk about the shootings and that's why a lot of people say that's why we need a second amendment. if you have gun ownership responsible and then you don't feel afraid and you don't feel this is going to happen to you and you will be defenseless. >> jedediah, i walked home from work and i couldn't help. i freely admit that when i saw like a lone guy with a backpack and i am in time square i stop and i wait for him to keep walking. it is what i do. i remember i was in england with those explosions. if i was on a bus and there was somebody with a backpack i got up and got off.

is that idiotic? is that being too obsessive some . >> i think it is completely normal human reaction. i went through 9/11 and i was close to it. i remember for a longtime after that when i would hear the sound of planes i would automatically look up and feel a little flush of panic like what is going to happen? you have gone through a veryiy motional -- a very emotional experience. even if you haven't lived through it yourself you know somebody who lived through it and you have seen the footage of the suffering people have endured. it is just a human, normal reaction you have for a certain period of time. it does go away. we find a way to conquer the fear and overcome it together. >> why is terrorism on the decrease? >> i don't want to think pay patriot act, but it scares me. but much like joel going to the mall, i don't go to the mall anymore, but it is not because i am scared, but it is because i know about amazon.com and i just don't understand why people would do

that. i think terrorism would be a fact of why a lot of people don't go. >> i was looking at the numbers of the amount of terrorism in the 1970s. i kind of forgot. almost all of these radical leftist groups were sponsored by the ussr. when the ussr crumbled so did sponsorship for a lot of these groups. we go back to the fact that why bill has had to go to a college because he wasn't going to be a terrorist anymore. i don't know. blame that on the romantic radicalism. 60s. isn't that the terrorism of the 70s and after it affected the 60s is -- 60s ? >> it is amazing nike didn't step in to fill the void, the sponsorship void after russia collapsed. >> why pick on nike? that was me speculating about the past. do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us. it is red eye at fox news.com. do you have a video of your animal doing something?

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so by now you have experienced wall to wall coverage of this horrible crime. we know what kind of bombs were used, but we don't know who planted them. but we know that certain images will stay with us forever. this one especially.

martin's life ended yesterday. right now speculating on who his killers are for the rest of the show is not going to change that. therefore we will return to the stuff that we normally do at "red eye" which will including doing silly stories and not so silly stories that occurred this week as well. while it is our job to loop these images over and over again on screen, you don't have to do the same thing in your mind. onward and upward. to the next first silly story. should a nuclear menace slow down a guy named dennis? he will be the toes of north korea again. dennis rodman is visiting his pal kim kim kim jong-un in august. he says, quote, we have no plans really as far as we're going to to -- we have to -- have i to read that again. we have no plans really as far as what we are going to do

over there, but we will just hang and have some fun. i love it when people just hang. although in north korea it could mean something different. he is also not too stressed about the little leader's increased bellowing. quote, the russians were way out there and acting on their threats. he just wants to be loved. he just wants to sit down and talk, that's all. that's sweet. you tbhoa is blissfully unaware of north korea's rhetoric? this puppy. >> i don't want you to -- >> he might be okay. >> he got. it. >> you got it. >> that was absolutely amazing. it was probably one of the greatest things we have ever seen. and all you needed was a bowl and a dog. a bowl and a dog. people spend millions of dollars and all you really

need is a bowl and a dog. we will be right back. no, joel rodman going to north korea. should we be encouraged by this news? >> i think we should be concerned. the last trip was a catalyst for everything that has happened since then. north korea is already the pacific's greatest offensive threat, and now it will be the world's greatest offensive threat on the rebound. rodman will go there and turn them into a basketball power house, the likes of which we have never seen. u.s. gold medal hopes dashed for the next 20 years. >> i didn't see it going that way. rodman says kim jong-un just wants to be loved. if we acknowledge all he wants is a hug why thought give him a hug. >> i think dennis rodman is the early candidate for the nobel peace prize for the coming year. i love he is going there to hang and have fun. some people go to vegas, but he is heading to north korea. god bless him. pyongyang and the beautiful

beaches and they will have a beautiful time. really i think this is a sideshow. look at this man. he is like 18 feet tall and his whole face is pierced and tattooed. i don't really know that he -- there he is. i don't really know that he is the biggest threat to the security. i don't even know kim jong-un is a big threat to be honest. i think we may be focusing on the rogue leader. there they are. they look happy. >> they do. maybe they will admit they love each other, jedediah. >> that could bring us altogether. >> it could. the fact is they could end up becoming probably our most famous power couple. >> wow, that's an image i don't really need -- i don't need to go there. >> i think i want to see that image. it is in my head right now. i see them as married and perhaps a bed and breakfast in vermont. this could change the world, jedediah. >> he is saying that kim jong-un only wants to be loved. so maybe what he is really saying is i can do the loving. >> exactly. he is coming out. >> you guys are speculating.

>> i am speculating. jedediah, what do you think? he wants to talk to obama before this. should obama give him his blessing or should obama be impeached? >> no matter what obama does it will be the wrong decision. i feel comfortable making that prediction. >> all right, bill, why can't one friend visit another friend. maybe rodman can't reunify the koreans. >> i say that friends should be allowed to visit other friends. but there is something else going on here. i think dennis rodman is homeless. i don't think any casino in vegas will take him anymore. we have a buddy with the palace. obviously there is an otherwise crappy area. he had a palace. this time he will be the guest that doesn't leave. >> that's what it is. he has no place to stay. >> he has been going around time square since he got back charging people for autographs and getting kicked out of

bars. that got real old real quick, and he is ready for a roof over his head again. >> by the way, usually he runs into trouble with all of his neighbors. he probably has no money and he does celebrity shows like celebrity big brother and apprentice. he doesn't have a place to live. this is a breakthrough story. >> i have been told that not even carmen electra will return his phone calls. >> carmen electra does not even have a phone. since the disasterous relationship with dave navarro. never date a guy that is pretty yes, sir than you. pretty yes, sir than you. can we i talk china? okay china philips. no, i have a metaphor. say you live on the street and there is a teenage brat that keeps coming to your house, maybe urinating against your tree or throwing stuff at your pets. >> this is getting personal.

>> i know it is. as parents you can't really tell the kid what to do. what you do is you go to their parents and go down the street and say junior is being a pain in the ass. you have to tell them to stop pooping on the lawn. he scares our pets. isn't this metaphor what china is to north korea is we have to go to china saying you have to take care of him. that's your guy. >> they are the parents? >> they are the parents, right. >> i think we may have tried that and i don't think they are listening. this time they seem to be a lot more aggressive. they have their own navy they are developing. they own us basically because we barrowed so much money from them. maybe dennis rodman is a weapon we deployed against the chinese. if you don't stall north cor cory -- north korea, you can keep him. >> and we can actually continue this by then doing, okay, send them andy dick. and then after that -- >> and give them a heads up.

by the way, he loves open bars. he will tear up the whole country. >> and then roseanne. >> if you are a nor korean kid who -- the north korean kid you see the guy with the tattoos and it blows your inned moo. you say maybe i don't have to join the other people on the gymnastic field. >> they probably think he is an active nba player. they don't know. they don't get media. >> they are probably living -- they probably think the chicago bulls still have michael jordan. i was struggling to find another name. >> i saw that. you were digging. >> i had nothing. >> the chicago stags probably still have that one rascalion. >> we could be wrong. he could be bringing north korea over to us. i don't know. doubtful. he is looking for a place to crash. coming up, a story so important that other stories won't dare look at it in the eye. but first, justin bieber and

that is him in the middle. now he is taking them off. he visits the anne frank museum. you heard it here last.

you may have heard, justin bieber did something dumb. on friday after visiting the anne frank house in amsterdam he wrote in the guest book, truly inspiring to be able to come here. that's where he should have stopped. anne was a great girl. stop there. hopefully she could have been a believer. went too far, my friend. bieber got a lot of crap from everybody rvetion -- everybody, even the new pope tweeted can anybody be more self-obsessed? i don't think that happened. an unnamed source tells people magazine i hate unnamed sources, someone told justin during the tour that anne was very into pop culture and probably would have been a fan of justin.

sad people are so quick to criticize without understanding the context with which he those comments. it is sad. >> oh. >> that is actually efficient. that is an efficient way to go downstairs. >> it is very easy to go after justin bieber. he is a 19-year-old pop star. he has nothing in his body but self-involvement. there is nothing else. >> have i been to amsterdam. there are many things to do in amsterdam that have no historical significance whatsoever. he took it upon himself to go to the anne frank house.

we can criticize him for what he wrote in the book. perhaps he should have been less nare saw cystic, but the fact he went there shows some degree of maturity and especially when you consider his age expts fact that he is about to self-destruct any minute now. >> i agree with you that he went there, and by the way the museum was okay. >> they had no complaints after he went. >> but he probably did go there for a -- i don't know. i am speculating, but it might have been a publicity ploy. >> it might have been. what do you make of this? did he do the wrong thing? >> there is no way they would have let justin bieber become a pop star. they would have put him in a museum of degenerative art. >> do you think he should be vilified for what he put in there or an innocent mistake.

it comes across at self-centered. he should have written i am a fan of hers not she would be a fan of mine. that's unfair. >> i give him credit for one reason. so much of what we hear is about the death and the murder and the destruction and he referred to something positive and it is rare to see something like that and that is actually cool. >> see, the thing is i am always surprised by our panelists. jedediah, are we expecting -- you love justin bieber. you have posters all over your bunk bed. are we expecting too much from him? >> he is 19 years old. could he have worded that better? absolutely. was i offended when i saw it? no. he is a kid and is self-centered. he is a huge pop star and has millions of people who love and adore him. is he at the center of his mind all the time, probably. but he did go there and paid respects to it. i don't think he intended to

offend and people need to give him credit. >> they need to chilax. >> is that a remedy you put on remedy you put on sore limbs. more believers know more about anne frank than they would have. so high did a good thing unintentionally. >> i was going to defend him until you worded it a certain way. the fact of the matter is she wasn't. she had stars taped to the wall she worshiped. she was a vivacious and normal teenager that was in a horrible situation. but the fact of the matter is what bieber wrote was if anyone of us had written it it would have been -- it was moving to see this. i'm sure anne frank would have loved me. that's what he wrote. >> you can't get around that.

>> two things i want to say. this is what happens when you walk around people who say yes to you all the time and never say no. somebody should have said, you know what, you don't want to put that there. or can i just listen to what you are going to say first? the other thing, he should look at lace garrett. they will put up a picture before and after. i grew up with garrett and he was the justin bieber of the midto late 70s. he can barely make it through rehab. and what was the problem? everybody said yes to him. nobody said no. that's the problem. jay how did sean cassidy make it out alive? >> his brother was david cassidy and who could forget the wonders as pamela sue martin as nancy drew.

>> she was amazing. >> does anybody remember when she did playboy? >> i don't know who she is. >> she did playboy in 1978 and i stole it. what aim talking about? is there a statute out of limitations stealing from a news stand? >> i think you are safe. >> thank god for that. time to take a break. don't even think of leaving "the joy of hate" check it out. autographed copy and you can get it at g gutfeld.com.

all right, she said something nice and then she thought twice. a little rhyme there for you rhymers at home. last week the former spice girl jerry halliwell tweeted to margaret thatcher saying, quote, thinking of first lady girl power margaret thatcher. the grocer's daughter who taught me anything is possible. i looked away there. but after some on-line backlash from the idiots she then deleted it like a fraidy cat. and now she regrets being week under fire. she wrote on her blog which i read religiously as well as

rick does and sometimes we read it together. now i realize that i do admire a woman whether she is right or wrong regardless of her opinions. she had the courage to stand by her convictions. not like me. i look at my behavior which exposed how week i was under fire and not like margaret thatcher. speaking of weak under fire. >> gets -- get it together. that is a bird. i don't even get scared by birds. when a bird gets mad at you i was chased by i guess it was a swan. and they start following you. did i dream this? >> that was a man wearing a white boa. and you didn't tip him.

jay should more celebrities take a note from jerry halliwell? >> it had a quality of narcissism to it. i bet justin bieber wishes he could have done it. it creates conspiracy theories. right now i think this is like she is the 6th spice girl, margaret thatcher was the 6th spice girl and they had to delete the tweet to make sure it doesn't happen. it is like paul mccartney being killed. i will go back and listen to spice world all over again. >> do you think public figures and even jerry halliwell would quit twitter because it is not worth it? they are now a bully machine. they look for people and crowd them until they break down and cry. >> you bully people on twitter all the time. you should know. >> i never do. >> you are responsible.

>> i like what you did. it takes a strong woman to admit weakness. she had the guts to do it, and it is good. whatever her motivation may have been, it makes a good statement for the celebrities to follow suit. >> you celebrate the entire spice girl catalog. does this make you love them more or love them less? >> it is always a nice opportunity to go back and revisit music you haven't listened to in a longtime. oh i haven't listened to the spice girls this so long. is she ginger spice? >> yes. >> i think the fact she came out with this and she said can i stand tall? do i even know what i am talking about? that is self-awareness. scary spice -- >> never would have done that. >> baby spice? never in a million years. but any chance to go back and listen to the spice girls.

>> i'm telling you, spice world one of the most under rated movies featuring an all girl band. i include that movie about cold play. >> yes that cold play and their fans. you dated halliwell. are you glad to see one of your exes standing up for -- to seeing one of your exes standing up for themselves? >> slam your body down and wind it all-around. slam your body down and zigzag aw. and that person was jerry. >> well you know what, yes, jerry is poised for a come back. >> she is poised for something. >> call me, honey. >> she shows how easy it is on twitter. >> could i add one thing? she has a great rack. >> we can't argue that. with or without andy. that's a u-2 song.

i'm sorry. that does it for me. i'm greg gutfeld. i will see you next time.